Previous behavior no longer works

Eduardo · June 13, 2025, 10:40pm

I have setup a keyboard key (FN) to move a window that is under my mouse cursor, and I also have another key (SHIFT) to resize windows under the mouse cursor, in the past I used to be able to move and resize at the same time, which was very convenient and faster to do when I needed to. However it seems that recent versions only allow me to do one or the other, which can slow me down when I need to do both quickly.

Is it possible to revert to the previous behavior? Is this a bug or is it functionality that has been removed?

xidiot · June 14, 2025, 12:18pm

I have similar triggers, but doing both at the same time for me at least would be strange and could lead to some unwanted resize/move.

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        "BTTUUID" : "15275932-B4CE-4EFE-B9E2-46A2E923C50F",
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        "BTTPredefinedActionName" : "Activate or Bring to Front Window Under Cursor",
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        "BTTEnabled2" : 1,
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      },
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        "BTTIsPureAction" : true,
        "BTTTriggerClass" : "BTTTriggerTypeNormalMouse",
        "BTTUUID" : "20951756-930F-4A9D-A670-0D3363869668",
        "BTTPredefinedActionType" : 69,
        "BTTPredefinedActionName" : "Start Moving Windows",
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    "BTTTriggerClass" : "BTTTriggerTypeNormalMouse",
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        "BTTTriggerClass" : "BTTTriggerTypeNormalMouse",
        "BTTUUID" : "8321A117-7052-40F5-A134-7BFD411AB9DE",
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    "BTTTriggerTypeDescription" : "Start Resize with leftclick and option, works together with below trigger",
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        "BTTTriggerClass" : "BTTTriggerTypeNormalMouse",
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        "BTTTriggerParentUUID" : "A94520F2-7284-422D-B17C-AAA3AE8E9778",
        "BTTIsPureAction" : true,
        "BTTTriggerClass" : "BTTTriggerTypeNormalMouse",
        "BTTUUID" : "B2359A69-F6D8-4891-B3BD-3E0842CB97E8",
        "BTTPredefinedActionType" : 71,
        "BTTPredefinedActionName" : "Start Resizing",
        "BTTEnabled" : 1,
        "BTTEnabled2" : 1,
        "BTTOrder" : 1
      }
    ],
    "BTTGestureNotes" : "Start Resize with leftclick and option, works together with below trigger"
  },
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    "BTTActionCategory" : 0,
    "BTTLastUpdatedAt" : 1749903018.408927,
    "BTTTriggerType" : 1000,
    "BTTTriggerTypeDescriptionReadOnly" : "Leftclick (needs modifier key)",
    "BTTTriggerTypeDescription" : "Stop Resize with leftclick and option, works together with above trigger",
    "BTTTriggerClass" : "BTTTriggerTypeNormalMouse",
    "BTTUUID" : "2A6E0870-1669-4937-87B3-AF8057B4E4A7",
    "BTTPredefinedActionType" : 366,
    "BTTPredefinedActionName" : "Empty Placeholder",
    "BTTTriggerOnDown" : 1,
    "BTTNotesInsteadOfDescription" : 1,
    "BTTEnabled" : 1,
    "BTTEnabled2" : 1,
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    "BTTOrder" : 3,
    "BTTAdditionalActions" : [
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        "BTTLastUpdatedAt" : 1734437140.9852629,
        "BTTTriggerParentUUID" : "2A6E0870-1669-4937-87B3-AF8057B4E4A7",
        "BTTIsPureAction" : true,
        "BTTTriggerClass" : "BTTTriggerTypeNormalMouse",
        "BTTUUID" : "2AEAA3EE-3C23-490F-A70F-EA17DA2A3575",
        "BTTPredefinedActionType" : 72,
        "BTTPredefinedActionName" : "Stop Resizing",
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    ],
    "BTTGestureNotes" : "Stop Resize with leftclick and option, works together with above trigger"
  }

These are my triggers, if you like you can take a look, but I use CMD + shift to move and OPT + shift to resize

Eduardo · June 16, 2025, 7:36pm

Before I test your triggers, can you clarify, do yours move/resize at the same time? otherwise I am not sure what I'd be testing.

xidiot · June 16, 2025, 7:39pm

Nope, they do only 1 action at a time. I've only shared just in case it might be useful for you.

Andreas_Hegenberg · June 16, 2025, 7:50pm

I’m not sure how moving & resizing at the same time would work. how would the window move if it being resized (or the other way around)?

Frank1 · June 16, 2025, 7:58pm

Maybe if you press both modifiers first and then release one, it feels a bit like this. But just a bit.

Eduardo · June 17, 2025, 8:46pm

Yes, this is how I have it setup and how it used to work, maybe Andreas can test on previous versions? Sounds like it was convenient functionality that somehow was removed

Eduardo · June 17, 2025, 8:49pm

Basically it was convenient similar to the way you can take a screenshot with macOS with CMD+SHIFT+4 and if you tap and hold the SPACEBAR after you start dragging with the mouse, you can move the selection around until you find the right spot/size for the screenshot you want to take. In the case of BTT, I could move and resize until I would find the right spot, with the size of the window I need.

Andreas_Hegenberg · June 17, 2025, 8:53pm

that should still work fine, I'm actually using it myself like that:

Eduardo · June 17, 2025, 9:01pm

I am on version 5.484 (and macOS 15.5) and it does not work, I use fn to move my window, but as soon as I hit shift to resize the window moving stops. It only allows one of the two keys at the time.

Andreas_Hegenberg · June 17, 2025, 9:02pm

you need check the shift checkbox as well

Eduardo · June 17, 2025, 9:06pm

This is still not the old behavior though. Why can't I move and resize at the same time the way I used to with two different keys when held at the same time?

Andreas_Hegenberg · June 17, 2025, 9:06pm

This has been the behavior for at least 15 years
Maybe you configured this other behavior manually in BTT?

Eduardo · June 17, 2025, 9:08pm

No it wasn't. Which leads me think it was an unintended and convenient behavior that was removed since you were not aware this was happening previously.

Andreas_Hegenberg · June 17, 2025, 9:09pm

You can verify yourself by downloading a previous version from Index of /releases (or by trying BetterSnapTool which still contains the same old code from many years ago)

Eduardo · June 17, 2025, 9:10pm

Will do, when I get a chance.